Post: Four Lessons from the Kiva Debate

  

 

  1. Empathy increases generosity. The pictures and stories on the Kiva site increase understanding between various parties that would otherwise operate in completely different universes.” That’s Matt Flannery, Kiva’s CEO and co-founder replying in his guest post on David Roodman’s blog.

  2. “If you’re going to advertise yourself as giving choice to the donor, you’d better do it.” That’s Mike Everett-Lane, formerly of Donor’s Choose, commenting on tacticalphilanthropy.com.

  3. Openness buys an organization benefit of the doubt. Even in his initial post, David Roodman acknowledged that statistics in plain view on Kiva’s own website caused him to question Kiva’s message. There was clearly no skulduggery involved.

  4. Listening pays. Kiva responded to the criticism with action. It altered those marketing materials, and Matt Flannery responded quite graciously in a guest blog post. But before any of that, Kiva’s staff listened.

    That listening, and that response, ultimately drew praise from the critics. David Roodman summed it up:

    I think Flannery’s response to my criticism blended grace, humility, and quiet confidence. The world would be a much better place if all charities, all organizations for that matter, were as open and responsive to criticism as Kiva has been. I trust the Kiva folks will keep refining. I will visit them today.

For more Kiva conversations – a post on my blog, Code, Camera, Action, outlines the story. The comments in particular, summarize how Kiva resolved the issue. For more detail, see this list of excerpts from the Kiva debate or Tim Ogden’s post linking to the major blog debate.

 

My post on the Case Foundation blog this week sums up the debate over Kiva and person-to-person fundraising. Plus audio, for your pod-listening pleasure.

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Why TV, not Facebook or Twitter, is going to revolutionize the world

Charles Kenny contends that the growth of TV worldwide is fundamentally liberalizing. Amidst lots of statistics comes this giving gem --

In the United States, an additional minute of nightly news coverage of the Asian tsunami increased online donation levels to charities involved in relief efforts by 13 percent. 

via foreignpolicy.com

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DonorsChoose vs Kiva | Tactical Philanthropy

Mike Everett-Lane, former Executive Director of one of the Donors Choose regions, on Kiva's transparency issues:

I don’t believe that microphilanthropy (or microfinance, peer-to-peer giving, etc.) is a good solution for most problems. DonorsChoose.org has an advantage, in that they are funding discrete classroom projects within public schools, but do not have to fund the infrastructure of the schools themselves. Most problems just couldn’t be solved in this way. (”I’d like to fund only the violas in the orchestra, please.”) But if you’re going to advertise yourself as giving choice to the donor, you’d better do it.

via tacticalphilanthropy.com

The whole comment on Tactical Philanthropy is well worth reading. Sean's (@tactphil) coverage of the entire conversation around Kiva's fundraising stories vs operations has been fabulous.

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Foursquare: Social Media for Cause Marketing | Selfish Giving

And since cause marketing is all about helping businesses support their favorite causes in ways that enhances customer loyalty and favorability, Foursquare could be a great fit with cause marketing in a lot of different ways. Both in how Foursquare currently works and how it might work with future updates.

Here’s how.

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Kiva Customers Don’t Receive the Loans you Give | Sasha Dichter’s Blog

The “your money buys this” message isn’t going anywhere soon. If anything, what Kiva and Charity:Water and DonorsChoose have shown is that there’s a way to take this approach and adapt it to 21st century tools – so that you can see an online photo of the microloan recipient or the well that was dug or the classroom that was helped — if not directly by your money, at least by that same amount of money as the amount you gave.  It’s interesting that making this association more visible and tangible is calling into question the veracity of these claims (no one’s writing about Heifer, right?), when in fact all Kiva et al are doing is strengthening a tried-and-true narrative.  The mechanics of gift -> organization -> recipient haven’t changed one bit.

If you think about it, it’s nearly impossible to change these mechanics and run an efficient, global nonprofit.  So why are we all acting so surprised?

How could we change these mechanics and still run an efficient, global nonprofit? Difficult does not mean impossible...

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Matt Flannery, Kiva CEO and Co-Founder, on Empathy

Matt Flannery, Kiva CEO and Co-Founder, replies to David Roodman's post (which we covered here http://elstudio.us/kiva-is-not-quite-what-it-seems ).

One of the contributions that Kiva has made is to demonstrate that empathy increases generosity. The pictures and stories on the Kiva site increase understanding between various parties that would otherwise operate in completely different universes. When understanding increases, so does empathy. When empathy increases, so does generosity. People are inherently more generous towards people and causes they understand.

via cgdev.org

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Tim Ogden on Kiva | Tactical Philanthropy

So the battle is Kiva’s spin on their operations and whether or not it is misleading. But the war is the illusion of person-to-person giving. This is a big deal. Kiva is a super successful organization, yet as everyone in the debate seems to agree, the best way for them to operate does not fit donors’ preconceived notions about what is best. Therefore promoting the fact that they use the best process will almost certainly lead to less social impact.

Sean Stannard-Stockton follows up on the Kiva loan/marketing story that we reported here: http://elstudio.us/kiva-is-not-quite-what-it-seems.

As a nonprofit, which would you choose -- giving donors the stories they want (despite the cost), or loaning most efficiently, despite the lost donations?

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Post: Kiva Is Not Quite What It Seems

David Roodman's long post is a great explanation of how Kiva works. It's also critical of the way Kiva markets.

Here's the issue. Let's say you make a $25 loan on kiva.org. You pick an entrepreneur, you make a loan. The web site makes it look like you have funded that particular entrepreneur. But that isn't really how the microfinance organization works. For practical reasons, that entrepreneur has already been funded by one of Kiva's partners on the ground. On one level, Kiva is open about this, providing dates of loans and so forth -- though its marketing simplifies these details. The post is well worth reading if, like me, you're a fan of Kiva or of microfinance generally.

There's a bigger issue here between the stories that motivate donors and poverty in the developing world. Do donor stories help fight poverty -- or do they put drag on the efficiency of the fight? 

Kiva brings microcredit and microchips to child sponsorship. Like sponsorship charities, it is all about stories: it was inspired by them and it succeeds by telling them. As a result, it operates in a pincers between the giver’s desire for personal connection and the costs and constraints that imposes on business of serving poor people. In fact Kiva can be seen as an ingenious finessing of this old tension. Technology has brought down the cost of transmitting stories and images.

via cgdev.org

Though the cost of bringing these stories and photos back to sponsors has come down, it is still significant. Can we afford the photos and stories of entrepreneurs? How can we not afford them?

Hat tip to @tactphil for sharing the post.

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